(Ed. note: This interview has been redacted for clarity.)
I first discovered Spencer Williams while going through some of the content on fellow gay porn performer Devon Hunter's new website AnterosMedia.com. I was, like so many others before me, drawn in by his swarthy good looks and expressive mouth, his soulful eyes and kind demeanor. Or, at least, the demeanor who choices to show on Twitter.
And although I'm not attracted to the muscly type, there was still something about this Hawaiian native that kept beckoning me. So, after a few well-placed calls, I was in touch with Spencer and my inquiry began.
Now, if you do a cursory search on Google, there isn't much to Spencer Williams's portfolio. A couple of scenes with Phoenixxx.com - including one very hot fuck session with twinky Kyler Moss - some work on Devon's site, an appearance on PeterFever.com (that came and went with a deafening silence) and his only bareback scene with, as Spencer frequently likes to remind poeple, his husband and fellow gay porn performer Mitch Vaughn.
But the information I wanted could only be intuited so far from his sexual performances. And aside from his short-lived, eponymously-named Tumblr and fairly ho-hum interview with Gay Demon, I didn't know much about Spencer. Which is why, I suppose, we ended up talking so little about gay porn and so much more about him.
I have found over the years that the problem with so many gay porn interviews isn't so much the questions (although it is hard to avoid the triteness), it's the lack of familiarity. In other words, what good is it to ask your subject a question about sex, if you have no sense of the person you are talking about.
But it is not hard to see why, when asked, Devon described Spencer "like a Monet painting, different aspects of himself shifting in and out of focus, but always colorful and soothing." Or why Peter Le observed, "Spencer has a great personality with the guy next door smile!" But there is more, so much more, to the man I spoke with for an hour recently.
MOC Blog: Spencer, thank you for taking the time to speak with me and my readers. Aloha.
Spencer Williams: Aloha! (Although I don't really say 'aloha' much. LOL!)
MOC Blog: Let's travel back in time. It's your first day of high school. What are you wearing? What is your mood?
Spencer Williams: First day of high school..I'm probably wearing something out of my older brother's drawer (hoping he won't catch me at school) and my mood? Just glad to be out of my house and away from my parents!
MOC Blog: Really? Why? Were you not close with them?
Spencer Williams: I grew up in a Mormon familiy. There were six kids in my family, I being the third oldest (the middle child). All of my siblings were into sports from a young age, I was very different from them and I knew it from the get go as a kid. I wanted to dance, take gymnastics and sing. I felt out of place in my familiy while growing up and felt like I was treated differently by my parents.
MOC Blog: Treated differently? In what ways?
Spencer Williams: They paid for my brothers to play football, soccer and wrestle. They also paid for my sisters to play soccer and softball. However, when I asked to take dance classes or gymnastics, I was told 'no.'
MOC Blog: Ouch. What were you siblings' reactions? They must have seen what was going on.
Spencer Williams: The sad thing was while we were kids there were sides taken as siblings and I was not the lucky one. I pretty much fought for my voice to be heard against all my five siblings. They saw what was happening, but as kids sometimes it's entertaining to see a sibling get into trouble.
MOC Blog: And cruel.
Spencer Williams: Pretty cruel, it was heartbreaking and as a child I never saw our home to be a place of refuge like it should be for a child.
MOC Blog: Well, forgive me, but the idea of seeing you wrestling in high school in one of those tight-fitting singlets isn't exactly repulsive.
Spencer Williams: Hahaha!!! Unfortunately, I was a scrawny kid in high school. I think it would be a bit replusive back in those days. I never touched a dumbbell or barbell in high school.
MOC Blog: And look at you now.
Spencer Williams: I know! I'm happy with the shape that I'm in (compared to my high school days, although there's a lot of space for improvement). My older brother, who was the buff one in high school, refers to me as his "younger buff brother" now that I'm the one that's really into health and fitness.
MOC Blog: Okay, so the idea of you and your buff older brother (and you) together isn't exactly repulsive either. You never...you know?
Spencer Williams: Ummmmmm, I don't want to be put in the same idea as my brother. LOL!
It's pretty funny because the two siblings that I hated as a kid are the two closest siblings. My oldest brother and the older of my two younger sisters are my closest siblings. I get along with all my other siblings, but usually when I need to talk to someone, I turn to those two.
Spencer Williams: Actually, I came out to the brother I used to be close to (the second oldest child).
MOC Blog: How did that go?
Spencer Williams: It went well with him. I was scared that I would disgrace our family by coming out of the closet and I was balling while I was telling him that I was gay. He was very compassionate and told me although he may not agree with my lifestyle, that it doesn't change the fact that I'm his brother and that he will love me no matter what.
MOC Blog: I've never understood that word: lifestyle. Was he referring to your same-sex attractions?
Spencer Williams: Yes.
MOC Blog: How old were you when you came out to him? More importantly, how old were you when you came out to yourself?
Spencer Williams: First of all, I knew from the age of 4 years old that I was attracted to men. I remember watching a Jean Claude Van Damme movie and being in awe and lusting after him. However, being raised in a religious family, I did my best to convince myself that I was straight. I came to terms that I was gay when I was 19 years old. I was actually on my mission for the Mormon church and I told my mission president that I shouldn't be out there and was sent home. It was a couple months after I came home and I was 20 years old and came out to my brother (who was the first immediate family member to know).
MOC Blog: Do you have any pictures of you in temple undergarments that you can send me privately for, you know, artistic reasons?
Spencer Williams: I actually don't have any pictures of the undergarments.
MOC Blog: So, as your family is still Mormon (I'm assuming here, fairly safely I suppose), didn't you ever have a discussion with them about how their tithing contributed to the campaign against same-sex marriage in California?
Spencer Williams: I never brought up that discussion with them. As much as I find it bullshit that the Mormon church along with other religious sects joined in forces to stop same-sex marriages in California, I never wanted to bring it up as a discussion with my family as I know it may have caused some hard feelings and I don't want to deal with that since I dealt with those kinds of feelings as a child.
MOC Blog: Do your parents know you perform in gay porn? I thinking, um, no?
Spencer Williams: Oh hell no! Not that I know of and I hope to keep it that way. I think they would disown me if they knew.